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October 30, 2019


Rebecca Anspach

Interesting and nice bid. I have a question about your bidding system - what do you open when you don't have NT distribution? Are you only using transfers over 1C or NT openings?

Bob Balderson

After 1C-1S, do you rebid 1N with 11-14 and 2N with 18-19?

Could the 1N/2N rebid be opposite a zero count (since 1C is forcing)?

If so, seems like a potential problem/hole in the system. One of the few disasters Kurt and I had playing MN Polish was when the 20-count patiently passed 1C and doubled 1N for penalties and we had nowhere to go.

Bob Balderson

As a follow-up, I think the answer is to play 1C-1D as either 4H+ or no 4CM and 0-7. Therefore, 1C-1S is either 8+ balanced or diamonds, varying strength. Then, it's safe to rebid 1N or 2N after 1C-1S assuming you have ways to get out in diamonds and show slam tries in diamonds.

Paul Meerschaert

Actually Rebecca, I use transfers after major suit openings, one club, NT bids, and when we overcall a major at the one level. We also use transfers after they double 1C or one of a major. And we are thinking of using transfers in some other situations. One club is opened with all balanced hands (outside of 15-17). This means 1D not only promises diamonds but it also denies a balanced hand. One of a major has the same parameters it always had, balanced or unbalanced.

Bob - 1C-1S 1NT is 11-14, and 2D shows the 18-19 balanced, and a 2NT rebid is a club diamond reverse. This seems awkward but other than remembering it, and it's follow up it appears to work just fine. Unlike your Polish Club, 1C is not forcing. There are safeguards for bidding with minimal value though, including the flexibility of playing in 3 of a minor, afforded by using 1C-1S-2D as 18-19 balanced. We now can get out with hands like xx, xxx, xx, Qxxxxx

Paul Meerschaert

That's an interesting idea Bob, and I would embrace it if I saw a major flaw with the structure as it is. As I feel the key to any bidding system is distribution and not strength, I am now giving up the auction 1C-1D-2H showing the 11-14 NT with 4 hearts, to me that seems like a very important and common hand type. You would need to incorporate a bid to show this hand, and still be safe when partner has that weak hand with no major.

Bob Balderson

I like it. Because you've given up the sexy 2C opener (I assume your 2C opener is strong since 1C isn't forcing), you can cover a lot of other awkward hands.

Ques: Can you get out in 2D with something like xxx, xx, Qxxxxx, xx if you respond 1S and partner rebids 1N? Or get out in 3D if partner reverses into 2N?, Or, do you just pass 1C and hope for the best?

Paul Meerschaert

I can get out in 2D if partner re-bids an 11-14 NT via 2 way New minor hence with 10xxx, x, qxxxxx, xx. The bidding can go 1C-1H-1S-2C and partner is forced to bid 2D. The following structure applies after 1C-1S-2D (18-19 NT) 2NT is a puppet to 3C which is qxxxxx of clubs or worse. 2H, is a NT invite, 2S puppets to 2Nt, and now all your 3 level bids are specialty hands

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