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Grag

Were we reading the same article, or did you just assign your own personal bias and feelings towards this article. You begin with the very false statement here:

"Robinson clearly plots out that if Obama doesn't win the upcoming presidency, that it can only be attributed to white racism. He muses about the polls showing that Obama doesn't have all black votes locked up. Can you just imagine if people were concerned that a white candidate didn't have all the white votes secured? Wouldn't it be racist to assume that all blacks will vote for Obama, merely because of the color of his skin?"

This is of course not what he says or the point he is trying to make. He clearly states this when he wrote:

"One of Barack Obama's principal tasks in the coming months may be convincing African-American voters that this whole phenomenon – a black candidate with a well-financed campaign, proven crossover appeal and a real chance to win – isn't just another cruel illusion."

Now the point and the issue he brings up is not the opinion that he expresses himself, it is the feelings and concerns of those in the African American community. He clearly stated that in the very next paragraph:

"I hear from African-Americans who are excited about Obama's candidacy but who suspect that somehow, when push comes to shove, “they” won't let him win. It's unclear who “they” might be – white voters, the “power structure,” the alignment of the stars – and it's unclear how “they” are going to thwart Obama's ambition. The point is that, somehow, he'll be denied."

Now I ask, does this appear that he speaking for himself, or he is pondering a question and concern that is circulating in the African American community? Clearly he is speaking of a concern among many of those in the African American community which you know nothing about.

You finely end this with a laughable ending when you state:

"This column is filled with racism - and my guess is that many would agree with Robinson and be incapable of appreciating it."

Where the racism you found in this op-ed is truly amazing. I guess in Robinson's efforts in pointing out the thoughts and concerns of a population that you have little interests in, insight of, or knowledge of does not make it racist. He is just pointing out a real concern that many people that you have little contact with and knowledge of feel.

Final point, there is no where in the op-ed where Robinson claims that if Obama loses it is because of his race. That is a cheap stunt you pulled to try to make a point. Like I have said constantly, and what Robinson writes about, these are the concerns that are felt by many African Americans, and not the point the author is attempting to make. Nice try.

Peg

Great - repeatedly, Robinson wonders if Obama will be "denied." Does he say anywhere that Obama might be "denied" because he is too liberal for the general population? Because he isn't as "seasoned" as some of the other candidates? Because potentially a Republican candidate might prove to be more popular than the Democrat?

No.

Over and over, his point is that if Obama doesn't win, it's because "white America" is not ready to accept a black president.

I understand that many blacks may also perceive the situation to be this.

That does not, however, make it so.

Grag

No, once again his point and the point he constantly makes is one that is reflected by a large number of people in the African American community. He states this clearly when he wrote the following passage:

"I hear from African-Americans who are excited about Obama's candidacy but who suspect that somehow, when push comes to shove, “they” won't let him win. It's unclear who “they” might be – white voters, the “power structure,” the alignment of the stars – and it's unclear how “they” are going to thwart Obama's ambition. The point is that, somehow, he'll be denied."

Secondly you bypass another point made in the above statement. You solely focus on the word "white america" but that is not even what he speaking about. The majority of his piece deals with the thoughts and concerns of people in the African American community. Once again to illustrate this here is this section:

"It's unclear who “they” might be – white voters, the “power structure,” the alignment of the stars – and it's unclear how “they” are going to thwart Obama's ambition. The point is that, somehow, he'll be denied."

Here he is speaking in the term of those in more complex terms of just white America (if there is such a thing), but again it speaks to a real perception and a real feeling that you have not a clue about.

Eugene's final sentence really brings into context the whole point of his piece. When he wrote this:

"Now he has to dispel the notion that because he's black, somehow “they” will slap him down."

Quite frankly to whom do you believe he is alluding to that might have these notions that he is so clearly speaking about? From whose mind do you believe these notions must be dispelled from? Is he speaking to the notion of white people, or is he speaking to the thoughts, concerns, and feelings of black people? That is to whom, and to what he is speaking about, and your constant cry of racism is far fetched and not even reached to on this op-ed.

Last point, you say

"I understand that many blacks may also perceive the situation to be this."

How do you understand this? What contacts and discussions do you have with black people that would offer you any insight into what their perceptions and feelings might be on this or any issue? I am just assuming, and I may be hanging from a ledge, but from reading your posts, and the positions you take, I would guess you have very little to no interaction with anyone whom is black. So exactly how accurate can your understanding be?

Peg

First - I am able to read and listen. There is a wealth of information as to what blacks think and believe, if you only open your eyes and ears - which I do.

In addition, however, I have black bridge partners, teammates, colleagues at work, friends of over 30 years, neighbors, etc. with whom I communicate.

I don't know why you think I don't know any black folks, Greg. You could not, however, be more incorrect.

oldprof

As an engaging Midwestern traveler, I like to converse with people. This is an anecdote -- a single data point.

My African-American cab driver in Nashville lit up when I asked about the mayoral election there. He moved on to Presidential politics, explaining why he preferred Clinton. Basically he thought she had more experience and would also have the benefit of Bill's advice! He dismissed "that little matter" (without further elaboration) as typical of politicians from JFK to Senators, etc.

When I said that I was from Illinois and found Obama an intriguing candidate, he cited a lack of experience.

I also inquired about "that strong Senate candidate in 2006, Ford?"

He said that there were those in the "country part" of the state, "hillbillies" who would not vote for a black man. Ford is now teaching at Middle Tennessee, he said.

When we settled up at the airport, he stuck out his hand for a shake. That is a cabdriver first for me:)

maria

funny how obama does not have enough experiance and bush does....black people still buy into what whites suggest to them in a sublime way ..obama has enough experiance ...i think a person with a 2 year degree could govern america ..we had a movie star as president is it a joke to claim that obama does not have enough experiance..

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