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jammen

The only issue will be how Mccain (read Rove) uses race-baiting in his campaign. I hope that you will wise up and reject Mccain when you see how dirty his campaign becomes. Yes Peg, this is a prediction. I will remind you of it later.

Greg

Wow, it is amazing how you can make a post such as this, and have it be as off the point as it is. First of all, I cannot recall Obama ever speaking that good people could not vote against him. I cannot recall him ever saying anything about his race or being half black has held him back at all. I know you cannot find any quote like this, so I guess you are just spinning a falsehood, or just simply making stuff up. In fact, he has on many times has said "only in America can his story be told". So where do you come up with this accusation you are making? I would guess out of the air thin air, because you cannot and will not provide me with anything that he has said that would make any of your points valid. I guess you totally went clueless on his speech on race. A speech that was hailed by many, aand simply ridiculed by those on the Right.

As for the Cosby moment, and your false issue of values, did you not watch his 2004 Democratic Convention Speech? If you did, and if you did more that just watch a speech, and if you took the time to comprehend what he said, you might recall he said the following

"Now, don’t get me wrong. The people I meet -- in small towns and big cities, in diners and office parks -- they don’t expect government to solve all their problems. They know they have to work hard to get ahead, and they want to. Go into the collar counties around Chicago, and people will tell you they don’t want their tax money wasted, by a welfare agency or by the Pentagon. Go in -- Go into any inner city neighborhood, and folks will tell you that government alone can’t teach our kids to learn; they know that parents have to teach, that children can’t achieve unless we raise their expectations and turn off the television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth with a book is acting white. They know those things."

It seems like he addressed the Cosby issue you spoke about, and he spent a great deal of his life working with these youth. So I ask you, where did he miss the point, and if he did not, why did you not pick up what he said?

Obama addressed all you said in 2004, and has been consistently talking about these issues the whole campaign. Perhaps you failed to listen to any of these things because he was a Democrat, but these issues have been consistently addressed. For those who have not heard any of this, then please look into what he has been saying, and not being naive enough to only assume that what Rush and Fox News says is correct. Below is a short highlight of what he said back in 2004, tell me what did he say that you find so unbearable or incorrect?

Here is a clip of the speech, please tell me as to where he went far off course as to what this country is all about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3mOyuJvX8U

Peg

Gee, Greg. Find one statement - just one - where I actually said what you assert that I did - that Obama made this claim.

Afraid I did not. I said some of his supporters have - which they have.

Nice straw man. Just won't fly, however.

Greg

Peg, you wrote

"Will Obama ever give such a speech? I have my doubts; it seems outside the "world view" of too many Democrats that I know."

As I have pointed out, he has done so on many occasions. Turn off Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and you might get a little more informed. I am constantly amazed that the viewers of these shows are the least informed on the topics of today, but below are some links to clue you in.

http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/

Let us not forget yesterdays speech;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj1hCDjwG6M

Last but not least her is another and a somewhat more credible view of the Juan Williams op-ed you posted.

http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/crabby-mccrab-show-starring-juan.html

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