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Greg

Did you even bother to read the blog post by Norm Eisen? The blog post that Hot Air is writing about had nothing to do with limiting free speech, and had everything to do with transparency in Government.

Let's debunk this attack.

First of all Norm Eisen is the special counsel to the president for ethics and government reform. The blog post is from

Update on Recovery Act Lobbying Rules: New Limits on Special Interest Influence
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Update-on-Recovery-Act-Lobbying-Rules-New-Limits-on-Special-Interest-Influence/

It deals with lobbying rules making sure that communication after a certain time is done in written format so that it can be posted on the web. It is not so that someone can cut off free speech. It is done so that there will be nothing done behind closed doors so that all communication can be seen which adds to transparency in government.

Here read it yourself:

I am writing with an update on the President’s March 20, 2009 Memorandum on Ensuring Responsible Spending of Recovery Act Funds.

* Section 3 of the Memorandum required all oral communications between federally registered lobbyists and government officials concerning Recovery Act policy to be disclosed on the Internet;

* Barred registered lobbyists from having oral communications with government officials about specific Recovery Act projects or applications and instead required those communications to be in writing

* Also required those written communications to be posted on the Internet. That Memorandum instructed the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to review the initial 60 days of implementation of the stimulus lobbying restrictions, to evaluate the data, and to recommend modifications.

So we see they want everything done in writing instead of being done verbally and having all these issues posted on the Internet. But you are right on one thing, we would never have seen this in the last Administration. Perhaps that is why there were no bid contracts in Iraq, and secret Energy Task Force meetings.

Peg

I did read it myself. Here's a quote:

First, we will expand the restriction on oral communications to cover all persons, not just federally registered lobbyists. For the first time, we will reach contacts not only by registered lobbyists but also by unregistered ones, as well as anyone else exerting influence on the process. We concluded this was necessary under the unique circumstances of the stimulus program.

Greg - do you know what it means in the Constitution when it says that the government shall make "no law"? It means NO LAW.

This sounds like law to me.

There are big problems with communications with lobbyists, and lobbying, and nefarious connections that can come from it all. There is, however, something worse. That is stopping our right for free speech and to petition our government.

You may think that those who drew up our Constitution were not such smart guys and that our First Amendment rights aren't worth too much. While the framers did make some egregious errors, such as with slavery and civil rights for all, I happen to believe that the First Amendment was one of the greatest creations in government theory.

Thus - I don't like seeing it destroyed. Yes, this is infringing upon everyone's rights as a citizen.

Greg

This is really a far fetch non issue, but it did provide me with some laughs. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree as we usually do. But I thought I would leave you with these gems.

CREW Applauds White House Announcement of Amendments to Recovery Act Lobbying Ban
http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/39806

CREW executive director Melanie Sloan stated:

"By requiring everyone -- not just lobbyists -- to communicate in writing after grant applications have been filed, the WH is ensuring real merits-based decision-making. For the first time, not just lobbyist communications but also communications by the ubiquitous class of deliberately vaguely titled "consultants" will be reported. With this new restriction, the White House has leveled the playing field to ensure that corporate bigwigs and major donors who do not register as lobbyists do not benefit from an inside track unavailable to those less politically influential."

"Today the White House took a welcomed first step in reforming its lobbying restrictions."
Michael Macleod-Ball,
ACLU Chief Legislative and Policy Counsel.

Then you wrote this:

"This sounds like law to me."

Are you serious?? Your joking with this one are you not? Have you no ideal as to the steps that would be needed to make this a law? For it to be a law, it would need to be passed by Congress. Then there would be a Constitution challenge to it, and do you honestly believe the Supreme Court would uphold that? There is no President that could just with a wave of a pen limit freedom of speech. Not even with a signing statement. Here I will provide you with a refresher course on what it would take for this to become a law.

Schoolhouse Rock- How a Bill Becomes a Law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

ahrcanum

To think that Obama is a lawyer- shame shame

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